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this is Jim semithan and you are

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listening to that UFO podcast

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hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO

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podcast this is your October preview pod

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informing you the listeners of what's to

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come on the podcast this month and some

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of the stuff you might want to get

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involved in thanks to everyone who has

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listened in the month of September some

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great shows some guests that ruffled a

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few feathers certainly if the feedback

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is anything to go by but always

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appreciate folks getting in touch

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October though I feel is definitely one

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for the books as it is a stellar lineup

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of guests let me reel off the four names

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of the guests first then break down a

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little on each as some are already

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recorded and others are still to be

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recorded so in order it will be Whitley

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strieber Jim semivan Jacques Valley and

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James Fox yes that is quite a lineup I'm

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sure you'll agree and at the end of the

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podcast I'm going to play you a sneak

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preview where in advance of release of

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the gym semivan interview too so stick

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around at the end for the

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let's get into it with these guests then

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first up on the free feeds from Monday

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the 3rd of October is Mr Whitley

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strieber this one is already out on the

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Early Access feed so you can listen to

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that now Early Access the comments on

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this one have already been brilliant and

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it's an hour that certainly flies by Mr

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struber talks about his incredible

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experience from 1985 that has been

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documented and the hit book communion

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and the classic movie with Christopher

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Walken it's a terrifying ordeal but one

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that needs to be heard I did mention on

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the interview if you're on the Travel

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Channel or Discovery Plus

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I know especially in the UK Discovery

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Plus is free for 12 months for Sky Q

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customers uh you can access his new

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documentary The Visitors which does

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cover a lot of that stuff in detail as

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well with Whitley talking through it

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that is that is available just now a

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documentary form on free platforms

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Whatley discusses updates on this

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including what's in his new presentation

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he's going to be doing on October 16th

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in Manchester UK at The Awakening Expo

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limited tickets are still available and

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you'll get to see me as well as

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fortunately I am hosting the event it's

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also got Steve Mirra Richard Doty and

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Mike Barra too Whitley is no doubt the

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headliner here and I look forward to

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hearing his story in person but please

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let me know what your thoughts are on

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the back of Whitley's interview and

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thanks to all of those who did send in

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questions I promise I asked as many as I

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could in a very limited time

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after that it's a bumper two hours with

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former CIA officer to the star's

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co-founder and its current VP of

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operations Jim semivan I enjoyed this

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one for many reasons and can't wait for

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you all to hear it it goes out early

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access around the third or fourth of

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October a full week ahead of it being on

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the free feeds so if you've signed up to

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Apple podcasts Spotify patreon Etc

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you'll get it really early in full and

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no adverts and like I say it's a

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two-hour long show Gemini went over his

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timer through the Stars personnel

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changes there from when it was Steve

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Justice lilizondo Chris millin and

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others we talked about his ideas of gin

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and how those ancient characters could

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be representations of the phenomenon he

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shared some amazing stories about people

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he knows and their sightings including

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one he says could have been the best UFO

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picture ever but it does have a

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frustrating ending as it always does we

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also discussed legislation going through

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Congress his own experiences and then a

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large of less knock questions which

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jumped all over as well but as always

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you folks never let me down in terms of

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quality I even brought back the quick

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fire around for this one because there

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was so much I wanted to speak to Jim

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about and I can't say that Jim semivan

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wasn't on my guest bucket list so it was

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a huge honor to speak to him and if

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going by what he says at the end it

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might also be one of his last podcast

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appearances ever or at least for some

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time I certainly hope not though because

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I love hearing from him so so you can

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check that one out very very soon

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that'll be on the free feeds on the 10th

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speaking of guest bucket lists the next

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one up will be Mr Jacques Valley and

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that is one that myself and many of you

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have wanted to be on for some time he's

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on to discuss the new Expanded Edition

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of Trinity the best kept secret the book

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he co-authored with Paola Harris an

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event that preceded Roswell as maybe the

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first crash retrieval ever Paola was on

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with me last year discussing the first

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publishing of the book so go back and

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check that one out and please send send

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in any last minute listener questions

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but that'll need to be before Sunday

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evening on the 2nd of October as that's

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when I'm recording with Jack but I'll

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leave it open to put in anything at all

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I can last minute Jacques is a real

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jewel in the crown of the UFO community

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and this one is definitely not to be

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missed and I'll do my best to make you

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all proud on that one then we finish off

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the month with James Fox coming back

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onto the podcast shortly after his new

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feature moment of contact is released

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folks may know now this is an in-depth

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look at the Virginia UFO case in Brazil

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where beings were apparently seen on the

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ground in a village one that's still

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causing much controversy to this day as

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rumors do exist of a video of one of the

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beings being examined by a doctor

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locally get your questions over for the

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ever popular Mr Fox and I'll get through

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what I can but please also think about

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renting buying however you can the

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moment of contact when it comes out

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around the 18th of October

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as well as all of that the listener

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Collins show I've been putting together

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over a few months will be out in the

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coming days very early October as well

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as new breakdowns and also a full review

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of moment of contact with myself and Dan

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in the days following its release just

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before I play you the sneak preview of

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the Jim semivan interview I always like

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to finish with a thank you sincerely to

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all of you who support me and the

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podcast and doing what I love to do it's

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an absolute pleasure to get to speak to

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the people I do and put out episodes for

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all of you to listen to whether you're

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signed up to on a paid feed or you

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listen to the free shows it means a lot

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it really does if you have enjoyed and

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haven't yet please please consider

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leaving a five star review and a comment

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on your chosen platform it really does

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help with that being said here is Mr Jim

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simivan for you to finish off this

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preview podcast I'll shut up now

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white is a phenomenon choose to show

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itself in your opinion to to some people

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and such a a Brash way

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yet for others it's hidden in the sky at

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a distance very spurious hard to collect

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data why is it so haphazard in its

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in a town called Youngstown Ohio Rough

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and my Youngstown answer would be

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because they're because they

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basically screw with us right they're

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just screwing with us and and you know

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that's how I feel inside it's like um

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kids I grew up that's what we would say

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you know I think a quick screw with our

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heads you know you you're a bunch of

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constantly doing this

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don't know what that reason is

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um and you know there's an element to it

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again that's scary I mean I you know one

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of my one of my friends who and one of

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probably one of the best researchers in

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the field Robert Hastings uh you know

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who wrote you know UFOs and nukes and

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confessions uh two wonderful books um

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people haven't read them and you should

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read them but we had conversations and

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calls it the mere response and um and I

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had I you know and I I asked him what he

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sort of after the experience he just you

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know even with my wife and I we had this

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this incredible experience that I was

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really excited and after like a while I

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was like Hey gotta go on with my life

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um uh I I had a I'll give you a one

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quick example uh uh I was at a

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for um uh my one of my wife's mentors a

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very well-known uh

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biologist uh who um

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discovered the opiate receptors in the

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brain and she's wonderful wonderful

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person wrote a bunch of books uh and

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scientists I didn't know

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her name Harvard trained and she tells

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me this story and

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um she was um she lived out west

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Colorado or someplace and she was and

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her husband were getting ready to go out

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or something and she had a she was in

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her bedroom and she had a robe on and

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off and she was on the side of a hill

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and she notices something funny she goes

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out on the porch and she looks up and

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300 feet away is a disc right classic

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Flying Saucer right little Dome on top

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inverted saucers together

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she's staring at it

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and she can't believe her eyes

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but she knows enough to go in and and

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get her husband you know and said you

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know get a camera come on out

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so the husband knows you know what the

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hell you know you know we've got to get

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going no no come out get the camera and

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so he comes out on the camera and

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they're both staying there never took a

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this thing was there she said for about

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and he never thought of picking that

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camera up and taking that photograph it

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would have been the photograph of the

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Millennia right

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thing takes off shoot straight up into

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the sky you know it was like it was

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there and it wasn't there just gone they

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um at all they just went ahead took

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their showers got ready got dressed went

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to the went to the thing and she said

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they just never discussed it as a

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husband and wife until long after it

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happened

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and they still don't know what to make

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of it and I remember Robert you know

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Hastings telling me yeah it's sort of

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like the you know this response is like

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these things happen and a lot of people

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when they have these you know hundreds

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of thousands of people have had this

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experience it's like wow isn't that

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strange

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I another one uh you know a a young man

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and I I

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you know had a conversation with had

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been having conversations with for the

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last six months you know telling me

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about his experience he had

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driving near White Sands Missile base at

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night with a bunch of other military

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guys and

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they get this big light that shines down

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on their vehicle

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and

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somebody's saying it's it's an object or

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whatever it's like a blue light comes

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into the vehicle and they stopped the

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car and that's all they remember there

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was like four or five of them and

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then the next thing they know they're

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just driving down the road to wherever

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they were going

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and it was the first time he'd even

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mention it since it happened but he

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mentioned it to me like 20 years later

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and he said I don't know why we didn't

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even talk about it it was just something

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that so you know what's going on here

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um you know it's it's the phenomenon I

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think

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either imposing some type of cloud of

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you know uh cloudiness over our our

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fogginess over our minds or maybe

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instructing us not to do that not to

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discuss it not to discuss it openly or

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putting it off until long after the

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event has occurred

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uh you know once again it's it's not a

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uh a trusted interlocutor by any stretch

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of the imagination so

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let me give you an example you know I I

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mentioned this before in another podcast

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I was visited watched by a quote-unquote

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messenger being you know in a little

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hooded figures that came into my bedroom

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this is probably not a lot longer than

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five or six years ago seven years ago

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and it was the only other appearance and

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he came in and looking at each other and

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make a long story short it just

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disappears I'm wide awake uh you know

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not the least bit afraid and my response

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wasn't wake up my wife you wouldn't

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believe what the hell just came into the

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bedroom again

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it was yeah

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you know went to bed with the covers up

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next morning got up you know

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um and it was a messenger and I found

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out my friend died and it's probably

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that's what it was about I'm sure but I

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remember

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thinking I better call up so-and-so you

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know the head of this uh he was ahead of

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this um he was a doctor ahead of head of

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this program that my wife and I were

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involved in and still are about people

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that have had these inexperiences

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and uh and he said well you know you

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should try to re-contact it was clearly

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a contact

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you should go back in contact and I said

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I'm not contacting that and I want to

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contact that I want anything to do with

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that damn thing you know I don't know

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what the hell it was I don't want it in

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my life I didn't want to open up any

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kind of pathway with that

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and I know a lot of people tell me ah

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you know you know you know this was

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these are invitations you should be

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taking these and I'm saying well easy

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for you to say if I knew what the hell

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it was if it introduced itself and say

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hey how are you my name is you know I

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still would be skeptical highly

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skeptical of it but nevertheless it

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doesn't give you that opportunity does

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it it it it it it just walls itself off

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and most experiences are like that it

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doesn't allow this this back and forth

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you know they go well they'll come back

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in three years it'll pick you up and you

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have these those are contact experiences

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but can you actually trust those

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experiences that they are actually what

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they are I'd be very doubtful that that

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I in other words I wouldn't bet a

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